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Continuing with the point of my previous post about how evil it is, to exchange the truth for a Lie… Dawkins #Memified Atheists ‘deliberately alter truth’
I first want to thank my atheist friend who inspired my post. She knows who she is… she was actually just one of the last of many with the same challenges. If it weren’t for her and those who are like her, I might not appreciate as much how very thankful I am for truth and love in God’s Word.. Ms. Memified as I will call her (so as not add to her embarrassment on Twitter) may have intended to change my thinking but actually helped prove that what I believe is more true than ever.
Anyone or anything that challenges us to examine what is true, honorable, righteous, pure, lovely, excellent or worthy of praise is a worthwhile endeavor IF it is done with respect, reasonableness and integrity. After all, iron sharpens iron… and sometimes sparks fly. But if the grinding wheel throws some sparks on the way to a sharpened tool, the process is beneficial,
I took her meme and examined it point by point — dissected the atheistic claims with the sword of truth. To see if something is true, examine it with something that you know is true…the BIBLE! God never changes and His Word helps us rightly divide the truth.
Here is the result:
WHY I CREDIT THIS POST TO AN ATHEIST: It’s a story of an atheist showing me what happens when one exchanges truth for lies.
This one particular female came at me after I posted numerous Twitter posts about the good news and joy of resurrection of Jesus. She started out saying Jesus never even existed. Okay so maybe she was just ignorant. But seriously, who hasn’t heard of Jesus Christ whether a believer or not? Then she asked me if I read the Bible because she has done extensive study of the Bible herself. To which the glaring contradiction prompted me to ask her “How is it that you say that you have studied the Bible intensely and yet you say that Jesus [central figure of the ENTIRE Bible] never existed?’ She didn’t answer that one, but diverted and chastised.
Experience has demonstrated there is an observable general #God-hater #Angry-athiest mode that some emotionally charged atheists reliably demonstrate. They typically ask “loaded” questions and grow angry very quickly. Some of the characteristic behaviors I have experienced could be summarized in a unified caricature as follows: “I’m just gonna hate anything relating to God and demand you prove stuff to me…Right NOW!!!!!!!…and you can’t use the Bible… oh and I will alternate between ignoring any other truths outside of the Bible if they don’t agree with MY version of truth…after all truth is relative… there is not absolute truth. “You do know you are being condescending, don’t you?” I will just deny or berate opposition or correction [criticism is their strong speciality] and pass my judgments [emotionally laden, fact-void] of being fiction, nonexistent, false, hateful, cruel to children, demeaning to women, enslavement or further assign various accusations as they occur to me.”
Interesting how the accusers demand I answer THEIR questions and then proceed to get pissy as the truth doesn’t work with their agenda. Many are also extremely impatient. Watch and see how many become angry accusers in about 3 tweets. Predictibly, they have repeatedly said: “You haven’t answered my question” “You are ignoring the question” “You can’t answer the question; it’s too hard for you.” Etc, Etc. It really is a facinating study of human behavior of the Godless.
Another common observable behavior is the frequent complaining and attacking people instead of issues. If someone presents an idea that they don’t agree with or prefer, watch what happens. It is a truthful statement: “if you want to see the real character of an individual, just say ‘no’ or deny him something and watch what happens.” What has this experience revealed about the general #AngryAtheist? Typically they turn a full assault on the person as stupid, cruel, or a liar. It’s yet another living example of the depravity of man who is dead in his sin.
Really it all boils down to not having LOVE of God or others. To be clear, I am not speaking of the “feeling” or “emotion” of love. I have to clarify that because so many people today are “feelings” and emotionally driven rather than principle driven and feeling experiencing. Rather I am referring to having the love we were designed by God to have and express. A powerful force that unites and grows in beauty, joy and hope. An active and powerful force that is the best there is. Love is a choice. To have or reject. Give or receive. Love is valuing others and caring for them and even being willing to suffer and die for them.
Anyway, back to the credited atheist: I was answering Ms. Memified’s questions, but growing more concerned she was appearing as though she wasn’t genuinely interested in the truth at all. Especially after saying she extensively studied the Bible yet she was is Jesus-denying and God-accusing. Can there be a greater dichotomy of mindset or worldview?.
I was thinking it might be time to leave her as one who has a reprobate mind. I was going elsewhere when this one #meme she sent caught my eye. It said ** “Biblical Ways To Kill Children” and “What God Thinks of Children” and then listed several Bible verse references beside a number of claims of “methods” for killing children. [addressed above]
At first glance I could recognize the lying summations. However, it was the number of totally WRONG BIBLE VERSES she cited and the misinterpretations that were glaringly obvious! The very first one about tying stones around children necks and drowning them was a loud alarm. Could an assumed intelligent person really believe that parents should eat their children. What?! IF she is such a profoundly studious examiner of the Bible that she claims she is, WHY is she sending out this garbage dumpster full of lies about Bible Scripture?!
That degree of shocking behavior is what prompted this post. So you see I do owe it to an atheist.
If #memified and #angry #atheists have gotten these few verses so abhorrently wrong . . . and uses these lies as their basis for knowledge and understanding … where are they headed? and what good is there?
I want to be clear… stereotyping of groups of people in such a way as to imply that “ALL of the group ARE this” is commonly seen as wrong. After all, every individual is their own person and no group of people are ALL the same… groups are made up of individuals.
For the sake of order and efficiency in our lives we do tend to catagorize things and classify people into generalized groups based on some kind of common trait. Inside those groups there may be subdivisions within that classification and maybe subsets of those. There may be such great difference discovered that an entirely different group is created. Labelling is an ongoing process as we learn more and maybe even redefine our criteria for a group.
Like many people, I order, categorize and label to quickly identify and efficiently use my time. I also use them for gaining quicker understanding. My groups or labels or terms may not necessarily agree with someone else’s who may have a different understanding or judgment of where something fits.
Since I have spent a good deal of time lately in conversation with a number of people who do not think the same way I do (in fact some in direct opposition to as I do) I thought this would be a good time to lay down a basis of better understanding.
THIS is what I mean when I use these terms: #Atheist (they call themselves this -no God) #Angry or #Mad (predominantly displays anger, bitterness and criticism of others) #God-hater (displays hatefulness toward God, Jesus, Bible, and Christians) These terms defined by the everyday common understanding of the words: #Illogical or #Unreasonable (not following logic, reason) #Lie (not #True, contrary to the truth, facts, or nature of something) #Wrong (may be #mistaken, but definitely not #right which I use God’s ultimate standard as well as general humane definitions) #Bible (The Word of God, originated by God and recorded by divinely chosen men for benefit of mankind’s understanding God, truth, love, wisdom and how to live good and upright lives), #God (God as revealed in the #Bible, God of Abraham,Isaac & Jacob, Yahweh, “I Am,” Alpha & Omega, Everlasting Father, Almighty, Sovereign, Eternal, Omniscient, Creator of the universe and all that is in it, Sovereign, Provider, Sustainer, HOLY = pure good, love, truth, righteousness).
Being a Christian I do not pretend to know all the various forms of atheism and their subtle differences. As a Christian the foundation of my faith and life is Jesus Christ, truth and love. Love God and love others as myself. Contrary to the accusers of me on twitter, I do not judge that a person is EVIL because they believe differently than I do. Belief is an individual choice.
However, if anyone, believer or not, shows contempt for others and lies about truth I am compelled to speak against that bad behavior. That is admonishment — confronting lies with truth, wrong doing with righteousness.
It is not an easy thing to do. It is not a fun thing to do. But it is the RIGHT and LOVING thing to do. Depending on the degree of harm being done and whether I believe the person is even receptive to or respectful of the dignity and direction of truth, I may try to speak truth that exposes the wrong in hopes that misunderstandings are corrected and bad behaviors cease. All of us make mistakes. I would hope that someone else would do the same for me.
Like the wisdom of scripture states, there are those who have hardened hearts, deaf ears and are blinded to truth and righteousness. At those times when it is clear that the perpetrator has no desire to truthfully analyze or correct, there is no point in preceding. Don’t cast pearls before swine. Leave them with their depraved mind. Kick the dust off your sandals and walk on.
LIVING A GOOD LIFE IS SO MUCH MORE ENJOYABLE WITH OTHERS
Like most people, I enjoy hanging out with people that do the same things I like to do or generally believe the same things I do. Our experiences shared with our family and friends are the real memory makers that we get to enjoy over and again.
However, I also have great friendships “outside of my circles” where I am getting to know people I would not have even met in a sequestered life. The most profound discoveries of new friends happens as I engage in my online excursions. Social media after all is social.
I enjoy learning of various world-views from people that are not normally in my social circles. It is quite invigorating to engage in conversations with these new friends; growing in understanding of other people and ideas that I previously didn’t know. “Come let us REASON together,” is a welcome invitation to learn from one another and examine things together.
The experiences that I have with people helps in me to understand so very much more than I did before I had the blessing of knowing them. Even those who have been unpleasant to me have taught me valuable lessons in human behavior and communication. God is so very good. He allows us to grow in truth, love and wisdom as we encounter people who do not employ them. They demonstrate for us the consequences we have been told in the Bible will befall the liars, selfish, and foolish . . .without us actually having taken that particular path ourselves. Likewise, others can learn from our shortcomings when we share them transparently. ALL of us make mistakes. ALL of us can learn from those mistakes and help one another not to repeat them. Iron sharpens iron.
In closing, I believe that labels are just labels. They are not meant to define a person. They are just one way of quickly identifying what is same or different, or to point to a place. I believe that making statements about the characteristics of a group does not mean that it always applies, all the time, to all the individuals of the group. General statements about groups of people are that . . . generally speaking . . . for the most part.
The problem that I see with those who stereo-type is that they misuse labels. They proclaim that ALL people of this certain group are ALWAYS ________ (insert their claim). THAT in my opinion is the key difference between labeling and the wrongness of stereo-typing . . . having the label defining the person places one’s judgment of a person over who that person actually may be.
What do you think about this topic? I welcome your comments.
This Holy Week has afforded us with yet another chance to ponder just how remarkably profound these events truly were in the scope of all history and indeed eternity.
Think about the state of affairs of the apostles who had just witnessed the horrible beating, public humiliation and torturous crucifixion of there leader, teacher and friend. I wonder, can you imagine how it must have been?
While sharing in the solemnity and intimacy of celebrating Passover only nights before the disciples were stunned enough by having their esteemed leader strip himself of deserved dignity and stature to wash their feet. During the seder the elements that for centuries had always represented the lamb’s body and blood, sacrificed and applied as necessary method of deliverance from death, were given NEW meaning. Jesus made a point of stressing that these elements now applied to Him. Jesus told them repeatedly that the Son of Man must suffer and would be going where they could not. But He continued to encourage them with [“I go to prepare a place for you. I will then call you to Myself. Until I return… Do this in remembrance of Me.”] His time was near.
What agony Jesus endured during the night in the garden of Gethsemane as He prayed to His Father God, can there be any other way? What utter loneliness must Jesus have felt as His very best friends and followers couldn’t even stay awake with Him at this dark time in His spirit. Jesus was even at that time being betrayed by Judas Iscariot who literally “sold out” His mentor to the enemies for 33 pieces of silver. Jesus knew that. More prophecies being fulfilled. More yet to be met. He was in the waiting room of the torture quickly approaching. His time was still nearer.
The assembly of soldiers sent by the officials defended upon the garden, waking the sleeping friends and causing quite a stir. As a sign to the captors Judas kissed the Lord. “You betray Me with a Kiss?” More of the foretold prophesies received their tic. Peter slashed his sword and cut off the ear of one of the soldiers. Yet it was the captive Jesus who performed the miracle and miraculously reattached the ear while warning his disciple against fury and violence.
“Who do you seek?” WHAT a PROFOUND question… even today! The words of Jesus inquired. The soldier responded “Are you Jesus of Nazareth?” What happened next? Jesus responded with “I AM”… those incredible words… the name of the ONE true God… the men fell on their faces in an instant!! Even though they didn’t worship any Jewish God these men couldn’t help fall prostrate before the Almighty. How shocking is that? Still Jesus went as their captive to be brought to a secret night time trial before the Sanhedrin who had already prepared their false witnesses. As He was seized the disciples realized that as Jesus followers they were likely also in danger. They fled. Jesus went still closer to the appointed time.
The mock trial was an agenda driven display of men who claimed to be righteous actually practicing all kinds of unrighteousness on the ONE who really was without sin. The irony. Just as the prophets had revealed the Messiah stood silent before His accusers. Then the next morning brought before Pontus Pilot so that the Religious Persecutors could convince the Roman official to get the government to do the dirty work of actually killing Jesus. Next more prophesied events took place; He was severely scourged, mocked, cursed and spit upon, and received beatings such that Jesus scarcely resembled a man but more a hunk of bleeding stripped apart flesh. “by His stripes we are healed”… Isaiah’s revealed Words of God were happening. Oh dear God, were they ever!
And in the wings was Peter… close enough to see, but careful not to be seen or taken into custody himself. Just as Jesus had said, Peter denied he even knew Jesus not one, or twice but even with curses on the third time. A rooster crowed. Peter wept. This was the day Good Friday! Jesus appointed work was underway.
Pilot publicly announced he found no fault in Jesus and attempted to get him released during a release event in which public could choose one prisoner to be set free. But no… “Barrabus the murderer” was the one they chose. As for Jesus the crowd was incited and yelled “Crucify Him”! Pilot after brief discourse with Jesus about truth and Lordship delivered Jesus to the executioners with instructions to place a sign “King of the Jews” at the head of Jesus cross. When someone tried to amend it with “do you mean that ‘he SAYS he is the King of the Jews”? Pilot answered “no, I have stated it correctly”. The mockers placed a crown of thorns upon Jesus head and a woven robe to parade Him and add humiliation.
It was added torture Jesus carrying the beam of the cross that would be the instrument of His death through the Via de la Rosa. Large crowds of people who came this day to celebrate Passover were everywhere. Many actually saw Him… the Lamb who was being sacrificed for the sins of all. Jesus was getting even closer step by agonizing step.
Along the route Jesus fell and Simon of Cyrene was pressed into service to help carry the weight of the cross that Jesus human body simply couldn’t do anymore. A woman along the way used her scarf to wipe Jesus face. It is a relief to know there were still some kind hearted people not afraid to minister to Jesus as he approached certain death.
Golgotha — the place of the skull — just outside the wall of Jerusalem that only a week earlier this soon to be executed Jesus had rode into the city filled with throngs of people calling “Hosanna! Blessed is He who comes in the name of the LORD!” O’ what a difference a week makes. There are a few more messianic prophecies being fulfilled in this Holy week!
Here we go… the CROSS! THIS is IT! The very purpose for which it was necessary that Jesus come to earth and live as a man. To offer Himself as the Perfect Lamb without blemish or spot — sinless — as a sacrifice for the sins of mankind. Jesus was the ONLY possible sacrifice that could suffice for eternity, because He is eternal. His particular sacrifice is the gift that KEEPS ON GIVING! Only Eternal God could apply restitution to justice for all past, present and future sins. Only GOD could do that. Only MAN could die… Jesus humanity was a necessary stage of His existence for the sake of the redemption of sinful mankind. Jesus was all-inclusive in His offer.
Huge nails drove through his writs and ankles and Jesus was lifted up on the cross for all to see. Placed between two criminals who were also being crucified. One which was mocking Jesus, the other who recognized Jesus’ goodness and asked for Jesus’ consideration. “this day you will be with me in Paradise” said Jesus. Even a criminal status/reputation can come out victorious if one has a repentant heart and one can face, address, repent and receive forgiveness from the Lord. Hanging on the cross, amidst criminals — more anticipated prophesy realized.
Even while suffering and struggling to breath Jesus focused on the needs of a caretaker for his mother. And asked aloud for God to forgive those who were killing Him. “Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.” Almost done now.
The sky grew dark. The Sun was up in the sky, it was high noon after all… it just wasn’t “ON”. No, not cloud cover, fog or haze . . .the sun just didn’t put forth it’s light. The miracles of God over nature would surely bring attention to the fact that this was no ordinary crucifixion event, wouldn’t you think?
The darkness of sin’s full weight fell upon Him. . . the Lamb of God . . .Jesus Christ came to deliver and that is what He was doing. All the punishment for sins was accepted by the one who could actually save people by restoring mankind to right relationship with His Father. Holy God requires perfect justice for the sins of man. The LAMB who was Slain was breathing His last. “Unto you do I commit my soul” Jesus said . . . then “IT IS FINISHED” !!!
THERE IT IS >>> THAT KEY MOMENT IN ALL OF HISTORY — the moment when the Perfect Lamb of God, Immanuel–God with Us, who had sacrificed His solely divine status to be born of a virgin and live in the flesh and now… NOW the time had come … he was dying so that others could live. Indeed it was finished!
50And Jesus cried out again with a loud voice, and yielded up His spirit. 51And behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth shook and the rocks were split. 52The tombs were opened, and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised;… –Matthew 27:50-52
At that moment the ground quaked and the huge curtain in the Temple was torn… from Top to Bottom and the wall that separated the place of God’s presence was no longer barricaded or only accessible by a select few… Jesus had made a way where there used to be no way. No priests or animal sacrifices would ever be needed to pay for the atonement of sins that Jesus had just made once and for all.
This year’s Good Friday Poem I wrote is called:
That Pivotal Moment in Time.
At that pivotal moment in time, ugliness of sin with bloodied flesh on the cross was displayed.
it’s long-standing curse, punishment and death upon Jesus had all been laid.
The transaction completed. Divine judgment meted.
Separation with God then tore for Jesus’ loving redemption, a new way made.
THAT PIVOTAL MOMENT IN TIME Had arrived …. Jesus paid it all!